Where did you record it, and who did you work with in the studio?
I did a lot of it at my friend Graham’s house, Calhoun Studios, in Sherman Oaks. All of my music is made with my best friends Austin and John Brown as well as my older brother Logan. I worked on a few with my buddy Nemo too. Also some songs were written and recorded in Bowling Green, KY at a studio called Angel Oak. I guess I’ve got a thing with oaks.
You wrote the title track right before moving back to Kentucky from LA, how did that move influence the record?
I was trying to write a song that I could turn to during this difficult phase of my life. I was lost. I felt like I wasted 4 years on a dream that was taken from me. I felt I had no control over the situation and I was trying to win with a shit hand. Songwriting is and always has been a very spiritual experience for me. I believe the spirit moves through artists as vessels. Artists are put here to feel things and express them so other people have somewhere to turn when they're in a similar spot. This song feels like a testament to that. We were in the room for three hours tops. The song was written in one. This is one of the ones that had to happen. The drummer made the guitar part haha. It was already written, we just had to be open to receiving it that day. This song kept me at it for the 3 years I went away. This was the north star.
Who did you work with behind the scenes, producers, engineers, musicians, and how did they help shape the sound?
I worked with my best friends Austin, John, Sol, and Graham very closely on this. We went to Graham’s house and put finishing touches on all of the tracks. I also had my friend Jon Hill come in and help out with a few sonic elevations on some of the tracks. My friends know me well. They know my taste and they know how to translate my madness into something beautiful. It’s a byproduct of hundreds of songs together. I believe we shape the song together by being close and knowing each other's taste and tendencies.